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    Angry My harley rant for the year

    Hey Motor Company, I see your sales are down overall for a second straight year (maybe more). Other than the fact you are totally ignoring the buying habits and budgets of the younger demographic, here’s some things you COULD do to ensure customer loyalty of the older demographic:
    How about ADDING the latest technology for your customer’s safety?
    Many of your competitors do.

    1. LED Lighting ALL the way around as standard equipment. Have you not noticed the danger element of those 2 TINY Street Glide/ Road Glide tail lights?

    2. The Boom Box is a joke OK? Poor sound quality and NO traffic feature!

    3. Must have costly extras to use Car Play . . . Seriously? My Honda car doesn’t need any extra$$$ for Car Play to work.

    4. TPMS management system. Sure I know it’s standard on the CVO but this is a much needed safety feature!

    5. Instrument adjustable Lighting feature FOR SAFETY!!!!!

    6. Homelink Accessory would help many as well. Youve got all those dummy buttons by the ignition switch, MAKE USE OF THEM!!

    7. Decent Audio speakers. OEM’s are the lowest of the low in quality.

    8. And lastly But not least: FREE map upgrades! Such an insult for a $24-$28k Bike.

    Be a leader, be an innovator. The bean counters are killing the goose.
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    Interesting: No complaints about handling, ride comfort, or engine performance. That's good to see.
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    Heh, heh, I just got started! Then there's all of that too. lol
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    I totally agree on the LED lighting.
    I work 3rd shift and there is no substitute for LEDs at night.
    Plus the longevity aspect.

    My only other issue is how much better my bike rides after installing Legend suspension.
    You'd think a bike that cost north of $22k would have a better set of shocks...
    I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol...
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    Harley is all about making money, they know what everyone is needing/wanting and they know they can make money of those so why give them up for FREE..... They will nickel and dime us on every little thing after they got us for the amount of money we all paid for our bikes.

    They have watched other competitors offer a bit more for the money but they know they have the market so they will squeeze every penny out of us until people stopped buying their product. They know most of the folks are die hard fans of Harley and will not jump ship, so until they see they sale plum drastically, good luck hoping HD will listen and start changing.
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    I agree on all your points. Funny how even my 09 bmw RT had TPMS and traction control, that was 10 years ago. But I’ll mention suspension too. My SG was 26k, I shouldn’t have to drop another 2.5k to get a smooth ride, and one that’s stable in long sweeping turns. This is why my 13 BMW RT is my daily rider...

    I spoke with probably one of the biggest distributors and installers of Ohlins suspensions on the West Coast. He said Ohlins asked Harley to build suspensions for their bikes, and their response was if you could do it for the same price as our stock setups. Smh


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    Here in the UK you can buy two decent spec small cars for the price of a SGS (irrespective of exchange rate, they've always been priced at 1$=£1) throw in insurance and it's no wonder most youngsters blank HD.
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    Call the wambulance and see if they will take you to the nearest Indian, BMW, or Honda dealer. Sounds like they have everything you guys need for the money as those bikes cost just as much. I love my bad handling, poor suspended outdated, underpowered, bad radio, kick ass looking HARLEY DAVIDSON. Haters gonna hate I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Call the wambulance and see if they will take you to the nearest Indian, BMW, or Honda dealer. Sounds like they have everything you guys need for the money as those bikes cost just as much. I love my bad handling, poor suspended outdated, underpowered, bad radio, kick ass looking HARLEY DAVIDSON. Haters gonna hate I guess.
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    My rant had nothing to do with hate Hurricane. In fact I just last month bought a new one however, changes and discussion is why we call this a forum so we can exchange tips, ideas and general bantor about a brand we all embrace.
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    Custom Dynamic Fr & Rr LED's l Halo headlight l CVO seat l 115 Anniversary Razor Tour Pak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
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    My rant had nothing to do with hate Hurricane. In fact I just last month bought a new one however, changes and discussion is why we call this a forum so we can exchange tips, ideas and general bantor about a brand we all embrace.
    Sorry I didn't recognize any tips, ideas, or general bantor about the brand...……….just complaints about overpriced bikes without enough features that comparable brands have. My bad, I apologize.
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