So I am about to buy the Advan Black speaker lids to add a little more sound to my '16 SGS...question is....do I NEED to add an amp, too? Also, how much different is hooking 2 extra speakers up on a bike than on a regular car head unit? Is there already outputs on the head unit to plug into or will I have to do more? I'm thinking of just getting some decent 6x9's to add back there but wondering what else I'm gonna have to get to make this work.
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You need an amp. There are several setup options. See the audio section on this site, many opinions and products. A member on here, name Spazz, has put a lot of tech insight out there as well.
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Ok thanks. I'll look into it. Just seems weird to me, I mean, most normal head units can run a set of 6x9's without absolutely NEEDING an amp....I figured this one would be no different. I figured o could wire up 6x9's directly to the head unit and then maybe add an amp later.
I don't think the head unit could even push a second set of speakers to a reasonable sound quality. HD audio has been disappointing at best.
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I think wiring in another set of speakers in parallel to your 2 speaker headunit will eventually burn up your headunit. The HD speakers are 2 ohm wiring in another set of speakers in parallel will give a 1 ohm draw on your headunit. It won't live very long with a 1 ohm draw.
Wiring in another set of speakers in series will divide the wattage you now have running to two speakers into 4 speakers. Not a good idea either. It won't burn your headunit up, but you will have less sound than you have now
Spazz works a lot with Soundzcustom and they might have a way of flashing your radio for 4 speakers and the wiring harness to make it work, but your still going to need an amp.
IMO...go with a "system" designed for your bike. Trying to piecemeal a system together for the 14 and newer HD's can be very difficult to achieve good results.
Wiring in another set of speakers in series will divide the wattage you now have running to two speakers into 4 speakers. Not a good idea either. It won't burn your headunit up, but you will have less sound than you have now
Spazz works a lot with Soundzcustom and they might have a way of flashing your radio for 4 speakers and the wiring harness to make it work, but your still going to need an amp.
IMO...go with a "system" designed for your bike. Trying to piecemeal a system together for the 14 and newer HD's can be very difficult to achieve good results.
The HU can be flashed to enable the rear outputs to add speakers to the lids.... if this is ALL you want to do, it can be done and you MUST stick with 2ohm speakers... and tie into the main harness rear channel outputs.
I would NOT reommend this as you are not gaining much more output to you as the rider... rear lids are only heard up to about 20-25mph at best and that's with an amp.
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I would NOT reommend this as you are not gaining much more output to you as the rider... rear lids are only heard up to about 20-25mph at best and that's with an amp.
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Well I don't have lowers and dontnplan on getting any...just don't really like them. So do you think maybe I should just upgrade the speakers I currently have and call it good? Does going with speaker lids seem to kinda be a waste? I was hoping you'd see my post...I've seen you reply a lot on here....was hoping a fellow devil dog would be able to help out 
For the rider's ear.... lowers are the way to go to be honest. I was against them at first... as you are now. I have since added lowers and would not be without them ever again.Well I don't have lowers and dontnplan on getting any...just don't really like them. So do you think maybe I should just upgrade the speakers I currently have and call it good? Does going with speaker lids seem to kinda be a waste? I was hoping you'd see my post...I've seen you reply a lot on here....was hoping a fellow devil dog would be able to help out
I say this all the time.... DON'T SETTLE ON AUDIO!!!! Do it right the first time and you won't have to keep upgrading.
The cost is high... yes... agreed.... but worth every penny since you are DONE. All too often, people upgrade from stock.. adding speakers... then another set... then add an amp... then another set of speakers to find out they need a more powerful amp...etc.... see where this is going?
Save your money and do it once.... ONLY ONCE!
I have a lot of money tied up in audio... and I'm not mad about it, because I didn't settle. I started with a high-end 4 speaker system that set me back a little over $2k for everything. I since added lowers , pods and another set of Focals to get where I wanted and the amp is more than capable of running 8 speakers if I went that route.
Soundz Level IV 6 speaker system is where I'm at... you can get a basic 2 speaker and amp setup you can build on...if you do this... get the upgraded amp to accommodate adding speakers later.... worth it up front.
Call Peter Jensen of Soundz... he won't steer you wrong.
Another option is Karl of NOCAGE AUDIO...he is a sponsor here and very knowledgeable and goes out of his way to help us all out.... let him know you are a vet....he had GREAT SYSTEMS as well designed by Arc Audio as well.
So.... one more time... save your money.... DON'T SETTLE....
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I always wondered about that....since we know the speed of sound at sea level is about 343 m/s and we know sound travels on a flat plane...but only on a calm day at 20 deg C...and since you are (slightly) forward of the rear speakers...and we have to account for the bend in the pressure waves from the wind effects...a formula may solve part of the equation; f=((v+Vr)/v)fo Where: (f) is the observed frequency (what you hear), (fo) is the emitted frequency (what the original sound is), (V) is the velocity of waves in the medium (343 in this case), and (Vr) is the velocity of the receiver relative to the medium; positive if the receiver (you) is moving towards the source. With no wind, assuming the original tone was at 1k (fo), you would hear (f) about .9126k tone while traveling at 67 mph. This formula doesn't consider the pressure bends caused by wind effect. Another consideration is the effect of local atmosphere caused by negative pressure waves interacting with positive waves thereby creating pockets of zero pressure...much like the "eye of a hurricane". ....so as a WAG (wild ass guess) Spazz's answer is pretty close....because the sound is behind you the entire time. So even at 35 mph, the sound would never catch up to you.
Why does my brain hurt right about now...lol!
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If all this means that the wind and the mufflers cancel out the sound from your lid speakers while riding at speed, then I totally agree
Hold on now....wait a minute...
"IF" ; f=((v+Vr)/v)fo Where: (f) is the observed frequency (what you hear), (fo) is the emitted frequency (what the original sound is), (V) is the velocity of waves in the medium (343 in this case), and (Vr) is the velocity of the receiver relative to the medium; was true
I wouldn't think you would ever hear your mufflers...jus sayin...
"IF" ; f=((v+Vr)/v)fo Where: (f) is the observed frequency (what you hear), (fo) is the emitted frequency (what the original sound is), (V) is the velocity of waves in the medium (343 in this case), and (Vr) is the velocity of the receiver relative to the medium; was true
I wouldn't think you would ever hear your mufflers...jus sayin...
Hold on now....wait a minute...
"IF" ; f=((v+Vr)/v)fo Where: (f) is the observed frequency (what you hear), (fo) is the emitted frequency (what the original sound is), (V) is the velocity of waves in the medium (343 in this case), and (Vr) is the velocity of the receiver relative to the medium; was true
I wouldn't think you would ever hear your mufflers...jus sayin...
Well you really can't....can you?
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