I have a pair of Vance & Hines 4.5 oversized Raiders. They have around 800 miles on them but just don't have the sound I'm looking for. They are deep rumble when on the throttle but very smooth and mellow at idle. I paid 629.00 new and I'm willing to trade for something a little louder and more aggressive. Here is a sample picture of what they are and can sent an actual picture upon request.