Looking for a good place to get my 15 SGS tuned in the Oklahoma City area.
I installed a SE breather and Vance & Hines Power duals exhaust, took to a dealer south of the City had it dyno'd with my SE race tuner. Rode it the next day over 200 miles and got 26.4 mpg! Just cruising, not hammering on it at all.
I called and made an appointment to have it retuned and they can't find out why the mileage is so bad, still awful Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, Mike
Personally, I would go with the Vance and Hines FP3 Tuner. You can get one for around $300 online and you don't have to have some money hungry dealership install it. You and I are doing pretty much the same build. I am going to be putting on the SE breather because it's $150 and I will be buying the Power Duals to complement my 4' Slash Cut V&H Slip-ons.
The reason I say go with the FP3 is that it is made by Vance & Hines and it has an auto tune feature that will adapt to the way you ride. It will allow YOU to finalize the map and install it right from your smart phone. Dyno is a thing of the past with these new tuners. In my opinion, if you aren't planning on going past a stage 1 build for your bike you are wasting your money on a TTS. Great tuner, but overkill for what you have.
Plus, the FP3 has you ride your bike on "autotune" for a full tank of gas. This allows the mapper to tune the bike to YOUR riding style. No dyno is going to do that, don't waste your money at the dealer. Those guys usually don't have a clue what they are doing anyways.
The FP3 allows you to add parts and take away parts and you can keep "re-tuning" the bike as you see fit.
Look at it this way, you take your computer to a repair shop and tell the guy "hey my computer isn't working right, it seems to be slow". That guy is going to do a series of tests and clean up what he can. Then, when he is on the computer it seems to be running just fine... so he gives it back to you and tells you it is fixed. What he doesn't know is that when you are experiencing your issue, you have multiple programs opened up in the background and the actual computer can't handle what your are trying to process. That guy is NEVER going to know that because he isn't actually seeing you have the issue.
Dyno's are just like that in my opinion. I had issues with my old bike and a certified dyno tech that just couldn't get the mapping down right... one of the issues was that I ride differently than he does. He can take the bike out and never have it backfire on him because he wasn't riding the bike as hard as I was. (this was in my Jap crap days)
Self Tuning is the future of fuel management. Go to Vance and Hines website and check out the FP3. See what it does and how much of a difference it will make just installing it on a stock bike without head pipes or a breather... the gains are better than any H-D tune you are going to find.
I understand getting the most out of your dollar and your bike. One thing I had to accept, and some will never accept this, is that we have purchased a cruiser. It isn't made to be a race bike. If you want it to be a race bike it costs a ton of money to get it built out to that point. I had to accept the fact that if I want to go 180-200 MPH then a sports bike is what I should be riding... not my dresser H-D. With that being said, I personally wouldn't touch the cams in the bike. (May get arguments the other way on this, but again, the gains just aren't there to spend the money and not just go do a full engine build)
Good luck with your search and don't just buy stuff because someone else said it was a good idea... look up what the products do. I was sold on that TTS until I realized I was going to be spending an extra $150 for nothing because I don't ever plan on going past cams in my bike. The FP3 will tune up to cams in the bike... if you go past that then the TTS is going to be the best option in my opinion...
