Tire Choices and SMALLER Front Wheel

hulkss

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In 2014 the Street Glide front wheel was changed from an 18 x 3.5 to a 19 x 3.5. The tire changed from 130/70B18 to 130/60B19. The two look like this ('13 on left):

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I find the new low profile tire to be less forgiving when leaned over on your typical imperfect country road. To me, a slightly taller tire up front feels better when leaned over in a corner.

Avon Motorcycle Tire Company has this to say: "Over the years, we have seen lower aspect ratio tires that help improve sport tire performance. There is a trade-off however, keep in mind there's a difference in handling.

As a taller aspect ratio tire reaches its maximum adhesion around a corner, it will begin to slip. You will start to feel that it's slipping, but it will fall off on a relatively gradual basis.

On the other hand, lower aspect ratio tires have comparatively better grip, but when they reach their maximum adhesion they drop off, or begin to slip, more rapidly. There is less warning.

With the taller aspect ratio tire there is more forgiveness as the rider approaches maximum performance and the rider will appreciate that."

So, I picked up a complete unused front wheel with brake rotors and the tire from a 2013 Street Glide for 300 bucks on ebay. I bet no one looking at the bike will notice. If needed I might have to put in an ABS wheel bearing. I'll know when I get the wheel assembly.

Another advantage is that there are several more tire set options available with the 18" wheel up front besides the Stock Dunlops. According to the Dunlop tire specifications on their web site, the 18" tire is only 0.035" smaller in radius than the 19" tire.

Avon Cobra, Continental Milestone, Pirelli Night Dragon, Michelin Commander II

Avon Cobra AV71, AV72.jpgContinental Milestone.jpgPirelli Night Dragon.jpgMichelin Commander II.jpg
 
Hulkss,
Thank you for posting this very informative information. I personally like the aesthetics of the 18" wheel on the SG and wish HD would have stayed with that. $300 for a replacement rim with hardware is a really good deal! I have no plans to swap out my 19", at least not yet!

Blues
 
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I'm pretty sure H-D changed to the 19 inch wheel just because of the "Big Wheel Fad" going on these days.

Here's a quote from a sport Bike forum:

"FWIW, the older R6's came with a 120/60 and everyone changed to 120/70. Like Mike says, the side grip is better with a 120/70.

Both the 120/70 and 120/60 are specified for a 3 1/2 inch wide rim, so you're not going to lean off the side of the tire. The primary difference between the two is the height of the sidewalls: the /60's sidewals are practically nonexistent, and therefore provide little flex when leaned over, turning the job of absorbing small (and sometimes not so small) bumps over to the suspension, which makes damping and spring rate very critical. This is the main reason for going to the /70 on certain Yamahas -- on the street the 120/60 felt very nervous when leaned near the edges unless the setup was near optimum, and nervous is the last thing you want in that situation!"
 
Here's what the Dunlop tires look like for comparison to the others in the first post. Some say they like the American Elite better than the HD D407/D408. Not sure what I'd pick if not the HD original tire.

Dunlop American Elite, Dunlop D407/D408

Dunlop American Elite.jpgDunlop D408, D407T.jpg
 
Over the years I have talked with many folks about tire compounds and brands and it seems there is no real benefit of running a particular brand unless they are specific to a special kind of riding. I have found the tried and true Skidlops to be adequate for my needs and have never had an issue with loss of traction In rain or low mileage wear so I'll stay with them.
In the day the wear formula seemed to be three rears to one front but as I understand now the rears are wearing longer. What kind of milage are you getting?

Blues
 
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Motorcycles stop mainly with the front tire and corner on the edges of the tires. That leaves the rear center tread for lower traction duty (unless you are drag racing). The newer multi-tread rear tires last much longer and still provide traction where you need it most. I like the tread design of the Dunlop American Elite better than the stock Harley tires. I have not come close to wearing out my stock tires yet.

Dunlop American Elite.jpg

Best I can tell, the hard cornering Harley riders like Avon tires. Not sure if there is any real benefit as we drag the foot boards at a conservative lean angle.

Avon Cobra AV71, AV72.jpg

I bet these Continentals are a great rain tire.

Continental Milestone.jpg

 
Hulks I have contemplated doing the same thing because of more tire options. I know I asked all the tires manufacturers while in Daytona in October about time lines on a front tire for the new 19" tire. They all said nothing that they know of which was kind of shocking.

The Dunlop rep when speaking with them said the American Elite is a better choice between those and the stock tires, plus they are cheaper in cost.

How many miles you have on your stock ones? The reason I ask is that I have 5500 miles and that was 90 days of riding, since I bought my 14 SGS in August. I will at least double that putting me at 11000 miles before my trip to Sturgis. I am planning on new shoes for the trip out to Sturgis in August. Just wanting to get thoughts.
 
I only have about 3000 miles on the stock tires. The Dunlop American Elite is available in the stock size so you are good to go there unless you just can't leave well enough alone like me. I change stuff cause it's a hobby and fun to do. All the tires I listed in this post are good choices. I wish I was riding enough to try 'em all.

Just got a notice my ebay 18" front wheel shipped:

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stock rear changed at 19,000 put oe back on,front at almost 23,000 and still have about 4/32 no issues feels good.
 
stock rear changed at 19,000 put OE back on, front at almost 23,000 and still have about 4/32 no issues feels good.

Man, that is like forever tire life. On bikes without linked brakes I tend to wear out the front tire first. You need curvy roads for that to happen from braking before the corners. I'm expecting more even wear with the linked brakes and the rear tire multi-tread compound. I had a tire last 8000 miles once. These new touring tires do last a long time so I should set a new personal record for tire life.
 
Solo,but when I travel run king tour pack and rack loaded. 41 psi front,42 psi rear. I check about once a month or at service.My friends can not belive the milage on tires,they get about 8,ooo to 10,000 on 2012 streetglide and 2013 roadglide.
 
I got that 18" front wheel on the bike today. Here's a comparison of the two tires. The 18" has almost twice as much sidewall as the 19" and a slightly rounder profile. The rolling radius is the same.

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Great upgrade!
I'm not big on the looks of the new low profile tires. The SGS is a touring bike for me, I'm after comfort.
Thanks for this and you other mods.

Mike
 


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