Sorry about posting twice on the same subject. I thought my first post got lost. But while I'm here, I'll add two things: First, I kept the converter, so I'm still getting some back pressure in the exhaust upstream. Second, I am reading here that some are saying software isn't needed with just slip-ons. I'm not disputing that, but I will say that my off-idle throttle response was greatly improved after installing the SE tuner. The day I brought the bike home in bone stock condition, I felt like I was going to kill the engine every time I took off (and did a few times). After trying both the SE slip-ons and the gutted stockers, I noticed no difference. I did the SE tuner when I installed the "Heavy Breather." This is when the throttle response infinitely improved, although the idle speed increased about 50 RPM. BTW, I always wondered if "Heavy Breather" was supposed to be naughty, but I think it's just from the gasping one does when seeing the $400 price tag.